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<h1>Velocityme Minutes 52 </h1>
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      <p>2005-10-26 20h35-22h10 </p>
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      <p>3 Duncan Rd Pinelands </p>
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      <p>Robert Crida (RC) Barry Radloff (BR) John Spence (JS) </p>
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      <p><font size="3">1. </font> </p>
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      <p><font size="3">BR Signed the legal documents</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">2. </font> </p>
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      <p><font size="3">Finance</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">There were two payments:</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">PHP book</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Registration of the CrIdea domain</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Invoiced Prop5 for time spent. Initial invoice
for R6000.00, but discounted to R4700.00 as an incentive to pay. Mark
is currently away, JS to follow up.</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">JS</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">3</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">HR</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">BR indicated that he needs @ lest 20k to take
up a full time job.</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Discussed what are BR's other options</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Need to consider who does what, and are there
potential people with varying skills that we can identify who can be
brought on board.</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">4</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Marketing</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Cridea</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">RC has been put forward for a potential
J2ee job</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Average rate for a senior programmer is
R20k/month</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Average rate for a junior programmer is
R6k/month</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">SKA may have work to offer.</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">There is a need to define what Cridea is!!!</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">RC, BR, JS</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Velocityme – Prop5</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Mark said yes, but was blocked by Fini</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">There were 2 elements here; Velocityme and
the BEE conformance tracking application</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Both have fallen through</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Velocityme – Pears</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Allen has seen it and taken to the board,
but they currently are having support issues that they would like to
clear first.</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">It was raised that we could possibly
intervene and suggest we take over their infrastructure. - RC</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Velocityme – SKA</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">There was a demo to 5 people</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">They proposed sf.net, which is the basis
for source forge. It is an enterprise tool</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">RC investigated and found Velocityme to
have 2/3 of the functionality and at a fraction of the implied price.</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">SKA noted that they would like the following</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Software management integration(CVS)</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Document management</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Gantt chart capabilities</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Group by release(project)</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">RC has already implemented Gantt charts
using jchart and png.</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">BR was updated on the latest functionality.</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Things that were noted as necessary are :</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">on completion task = 100%</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Complete dependencies functionality</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Complete calculation of time(auto update)</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Automatic estimation of time</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">on state change % completed can be preset.</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">BR needs to get latest source and box ready for
dev.</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">next meeting</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">6</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Strategy</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">SPIN – was identified by RC as a networking
opportunity, and hoped to get a skills update benefit from attending
the meetings. There was talk of RC investigating if Velocityme could be
used to assist in companies moving up the CMM scale</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">SKA</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Currently hosting a server for them to
evaluate.</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Gantt charts have been implemented by RC</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Need to consider grouping by release or a
viable alternative</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">There will be a feedback session when
Jasper returns.(next week)</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">It is an international project will lots of
potential</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">John will send Barry the presentation
document.</font></p>
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          <p><font size="3">Their min requirements are: Planning,
costing and resource allocation</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">4. RC</font></p>
      <p><font size="3">6. JS</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">4. Next week</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Pam Golding is a similar situation to Pears, JS
will follow up</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">VA has settled a dispute with the city and all
projects are going ahead again, there is a definite need to stream line
their processes, everything is currently on Excel and manually entered.
They may need a similar solution to Velocityme, only simpler.</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">JS</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">World Cup 2010, this is dependent on BEE
issues, does not look promising</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Need to come up with a strategy for the next 4
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      <p><font size="3">Need to consider what else can be done</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Identified who is using J2EE: </font> </p>
      <p><font size="3">ABSA, Pick 'n Pay, Sanlam, Old Mutual</font></p>
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      <p><font size="3">Need to define what is crIdea, what market are
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      <p>Barry Radloff</p>
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      <p>2005-10-31 </p>
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      <p>15/11/2005</p>
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